TD_D mod journey. From stock to the 'bastardmobile'

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Landed up using the published 1ms at 14v (played around a little over and under, but 1ms came in quite accurate). I then looked around for similar injectors (landed up using a Deutchewerks 1000cc as a base line) with a full published set of latencies, and graphed them against the stock latencies, and slightly adjusted for the the two curves to follow a similar path. Worked relatively well, used:

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[Table3D]6.50    9.00    11.50    14.00    16.50
-1.3332    3.00    2.13    1.36    1.00    0.80
0.0000    3.00    2.13    1.36    1.00    0.80
1.3332    3.00    2.13    1.36    1.00    0.80
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Thanks Jordan - don't worry, I'll be back for more ;)

Speaking of which, I saw what I think was a Precision 6262 turbo at the shop (60lb/min ?). Woha...
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Promise to give my thread some love soon - will post up some of my experiments with AVCS and cranking up the boost over the past 2 weeks.

All I can say is, I hit 4.84V on an 80mm MAF housing tonight. In 3rd gear :tard:. I'm sure I'll max it out in 4th gear. Jeesh, more spending... Hey Jordan, you got any good deals on some big ass MAF housings ;)

Also thinking I must revive the conversation with the shop about getting bigger cams in again (I was going to get Kelford 268, but the order was duffed, so still on stock cams) - and get the damn TGV's out of there at the same time.

Maybe at some point I'll actually drive her for longer than 3/4 months before moving on to the next big mod :D And the more I think about it, the more I'm amazed my stock clutch has not yet crapped out. I'm probably skirting 430 to 440 whp now. Really should get a proper dyno.
 
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Td_d

Commander In Chief
Well, I finally fell to the temptation - bought Tinywrx's LC and FFS patch. Will patch it tonight, and go testing :twisted:
 

HolyCrapItsFast

Drinks beer!
Oh you should have told me you wanted that. I have it.

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Td_d

Commander In Chief
For a GR? Bugger... Oh well, haven't really had the chance to test it yet - I know it works (trying flat footing it with clutch depressed - worked perfectly).

I disassembled the code - I could kick myself. So simple...
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Nope - no 32 bit ECU implementation. There's a fully working 16 bit version, based on the Group N Rom. The individual in that thread is likely to be capable of creating the code for SD on the 32 bit Roms - issue will be timeframes.
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
So, I've decided that I need to get an EGT probe installed, I'm tired of guessing / hoping that my EGTs are safe. What would y'all recommend, make-wise? I gather that runner #4 is the best place to install?

I'm also wondering - there's a fellow '06 owner that's looking to upgrade to Dom3 - should I take the opportunity to upgrade, or should I just organise cams? If price is a secondary concern - what turbo would you recommend for wicked top end, and decent driveability?
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Been cleaning up the timing maps, little bit of knock here and there, plus I wanted to make the timing transition, especially with the spooling related revision much smoother.

I'm curious - the per gear timing compensation tables were found some time back, I posted up the address for my GR on the forums after I found it in the Rom - here's what's counter intuitive for me - timing is reduced with each lower gear - so the reduction in 1st are the most at high RPMs and the least in 5th. Other than 1st, which I could understand might be to improve traction, why would they be doing that? I would think that you could push higher timing at lower gears? I'm thinking of deactivating these tables, as they cause a big dip in my timing at 4400rpms onwards. Any ideas?
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Yeah, thinking of doing that, just looking for some direction. From what I gather, you should increase the timing in the lower gears, using 5th or 6th as the baseline. That way, you can keep the power levels up in the lower gears - saw an interesting thread which showed some before and after dyno sheets, massive improvements in 1st and 2nd gear.
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Hey Fuji - I take it back - the SD code is for the 32bit ECU! Just that it has not yet been ported to the 08's up (done on a 2004 Sti).

Should be fairly easy to port it across, as from what I gather it's a relatively simple approach to SD that Freon took.

EDIT: Just had a look through the code - this would be dead easy, like the LC code, basically plonk the routine and tables in free memory space (there's a big chunk towards the end of the ROM area) and then make sure that you're linking the correct address for the inputs like RPM, IAT etc. into the code.
 
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Td_d

Commander In Chief
So - out of interest - how do you tackle your drive-by-wire maps - aggressively remap the requested torque (accel pedal %) maps at the lower end?
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Swamped at work, hence the radio silence.

Been tuning driveability at low throttle, acceleration areas, since the new injectors introduced the stumble again, given the significantly higher amount of fuel. I've found the spreadsheet tools are not helpful when tuning these areas, since they are not in closed loop, and the short and long term trims don't come into play. Using a wideband to calculate target versus actual errors helps, but if you simply plug those figures into the spreasheets, even after filtering, you get some very large (and incorrect) numbers. So yeah, been doing it manually - split off RPM areas at various boost zones, and actually look at what the actual to targeted errors are, and make slow adjustments to the compensation tables. Pain in the ass, but works better I'm finding.

I've had to loosen up my dual port recirculating BOV since I was getting some surge when letting go of the throttle at high RPMs, had to turn the turbosmart 40 a full two turns to really have an impact. Problem now, is I'm getting rich spots between shifts (with the characteristic pops) which is annoying. I'm thinking of going BPV again - but I'll need an aftermarket, since I'm running 24 / 25 Psi now, and will run more likely. Any suggestions in terms of make?

I guess the other question I should ask is whether a little bit of surge is really a problem with a big ass turbo - with the valve fully closed, I get it at most RPM range with rapid deceleration, but for a very short duration, 1/2 second at most. A lot less annoying than backfires.
 
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Td_d

Commander In Chief
I've managed to adjust the turbosmart dual port to just that point before surge is really a problem, and the backfires are far less pronounced - used George's approach.

On a much more fun note, finally got me an M5 :tard: I think he was rather butthurt, but with LC, FFS and 1.7bar, I don't think he stood much of a chance... Damn, this car is running hard now, I can actually begin feeling traction failing at certain points on a pull. I'm amazed the clutch is still on! Not for long, methinks.
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
I've finally got everything buttoned down nicely - tuning in the low end driveability with the new, much larger injectors proved a major pain in the ass, especially with respect to the troublesome 'hesitation' areas so renowed in the GR. One has to wonder how the Subaru engineers managed to so perfectly engineers a problematic fueling delivery setup!

One thing I learnt quite clearly was that you need to be real careful with dropping the timing too low in the low load areas. I was getting really problematic low end knock, which also coincides with the 2600 - 3000 RPM range, so real driveability issue. Reverting to basically stock values right up to loads of 1.3 to 1.4 sorted it out. Now I'm going to try and bump the intake AVCS up again somewhat - I lowered in these areas initially, thinking it might be the cause of the knock.

I probably should just leave it, but I'm like a moth drawn to a flame. The car is driving smooth, knock free and kick-ass fast on the top end - haven't done a road dyno yet, but from how easy I left an M5 behind, I have an idea :tard: I've also bumped boost up to 1.8 bar, yeeha!

So with everything working beautifully, of course I .... called the mechanic to see when we can get new cams in :tard: I'm a sucka for powa, what can I say.
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
I figure I can't go wrong with Kelfords - thinking 272's. And mechanic figures we might as well do springs and valves whilst it's open.
 

Td_d

Commander In Chief
Had a chat with the shop, going to go for the Manley springs and valves (thicker stems), and deciding between the BC cams or the Kelfords.
 

HolyCrapItsFast

Drinks beer!
Kelfords! They have a more aggressive profile better suited for your application and I thought they had more lift as well.
 
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